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Old 03-03-2004, 02:56 PM   #1
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The Most Comfortable Sport Bike

What is the most comfortable of the Japanese sport bikes? It doesn't have to have the most power, the best top end, or even the latest in technology. Here's what I want:

* Comfortable seating position

* The ability to cruise between 55 and 85 MPH and feel good doing it

* Being able to ride it 8 hours a day without regreting it

PS, I've found that I prefer the protection of a full fairing.

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Old 03-03-2004, 03:12 PM   #2
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Well, seeing as how you drive a Beemer K1200GT, I'll assume that you have some experience under your belt, and you're obviously comfortable wielding a big bike.

The first bike that comes to my mind that would seem appropriate for you would be a Honda VFR (any), but if you're looking for something perhaps a bit sportier and lighter-handling than that, I'd also suggest a Honda CBR600F4i.

A couple of other good choices would be Kawasaki's ZX9 or ZX6 (not "R"), or Yamaha's YZF600 (not R6).

Kawasaki's ZX12 & Suzuki's Hayabusa would also be good choices, but they're both fairly big and I'm assuming that the reason you're looking for a sportbike is to get something substantially lighter & better handling than your K12.

There are others that I'm sure folks will suggest, but these are the ones I instinctively think of when considering sporting prowess combined with "reasonable" ergonomics.

FWIW, I find my '01 Yamaha R1 quite comfortable for all day rides, even in consideration of the FJ1200 I had for the previous 10 years. I'm short, and I'm sure that helps - I have no problems with leg room, and the reach to the bars is not bad for me.

My 2¢

ps - Also keep in mind that Heli riser bars, and adjustable pegs are available for most sportbikes, so you can practically just pick any bike that suits you and modify to make it more comfortable.
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Old 03-03-2004, 04:00 PM   #3
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Thanks Mity Mouse,

Yes you are correct. I looking for something lighter than my Beemer, but also for something that has a dealer closer than 160 miles away. I've thought about a Hayabusa with HeliBars and a double bubble windshield, but I also thought about "downsizing" to a Kawasaki ZZR600 (what used to be a ZX-6) because it might be ok the way it is. Any more ideas from anybody else would sure be appreciated.

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Old 03-03-2004, 08:11 PM   #4
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YZF600R is quite capable of all you describe Billy Roy.

The ZX9R is another great choice, especially if you want more power. Unfortunately, 55 mph feels a bit slow on it.

If you go big-bore, invest in a radar detector. It's tough to drone down the highway below 80. Then again, maybe it's just me. ;)
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FWIW, you will see a reduction in the fuel economy and range as you go up in displacement. I consistently saw 40-45mpg on my YZF600R with a high of 52mpg and a low of 26mpg. My ZX9R only returns 36-38mpg with a high of 47mpg and a low of 17mpg. Both are equipped with 5 gallon tanks.
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Compared to my CBR900rr, the Hayabusa is much more comfortable. It is a bit bigger than the 900 but it does handle great. If you are going to ride for about 8 or so hours, even on the 'Bus, you would want to get some kind of handle bar risers.
I've read about those new FJR1300's also. They seem pretty cool too!
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Old 03-04-2004, 03:08 PM   #7
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Thank you P-Ratt and Speed Star,

I rode a YZF600R once. The power was actually pretty good, but I sat up at at about 80 mph and the wind caught my shoulders and shook me violently. I rode a Hayabusa and found it to be very smooth, and hard to keep below 70 mph. I think I'd have to get HeliBars if I bought one, and it really does have more power than I would use, since my riding buddy (my wife) rides a Harley-Davidson Springer and wouldn't be comfortable at BUSA speeds. (I used to ride Harleys too, but had a "disagreement" with H-D, so the only Harley I'll ride now is my old Ironhead Hardtail Chopper.) The Beemer is ok, but a little (ok, alot) heavy and I've had quite a few things that needed fixing and my nearest dealer is 160 miles away. The BUSA is tempting, but a smaller bike would probably do. Anybody know if the Kawasaki ZZR600 is any good? Are there any other prospects out there for me? Thanks a bunch.

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Old 03-04-2004, 03:30 PM   #8
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There's also the RF900R, Kawasaki's ZZR and ZRX's (both come in big bike varieties), the Honda 919 (a nekkid bike, but still a comfortable ride) the Suzuki SV1000S, and wha'ts Yamaha's half dressed bike....the FZ1?
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Old 03-08-2004, 11:09 AM   #9
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I've enjoyed my VFR quite a bit. It has a comfortable seating position that accomodates my 6'6" frame nicely. I've taken numerous day trips with no problems, but I've added a Corbin seat. I'm more into the sporty side of riding, so cruising is not my thing, but as far a sportbikes go, you can effortlessly cruise along at 80 mph all day with no vibration. I think you'll find the V4 engine to be sooo smooth and linear. A few times I've thought about switching to something a little sportier or more powerful, but then I'll go ride with my buddies on literbikes and understand why I keep it. It's fast, comfortable, unique, handles great, offers good wind protection, and is rock solid dependable.

There are many good choices out there. But coming off a BMW, I'm sure you expect a certain amount of refinement in your mount, and the VFR really has no equal in this category. I'd encourage you to go and sit on one, or better yet, talk to more VFR owners and get their opinions. Here's a nice site for lurking. Good luck whatever you decide. VFR Discussion
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Old 03-19-2004, 02:36 PM   #10
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I always thought "comfortable sport-bike" was a gross contradiction of terms.
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Old 03-20-2004, 07:38 PM   #11
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Why Japanese? Triumph's are less track-oriented than either tha Japanese or the Italian brands, and more comfortable comes with that.
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Old 03-20-2004, 10:34 PM   #12
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Why Japanese? Triumph's are less track-oriented than either tha Japanese or the Italian brands, and more comfortable comes with that.



Hmmm... Don't know if I entirely agree with that. Clutch? Care to elaborate?
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Old 03-21-2004, 02:59 PM   #13
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danch,

The reason I won't consider a Triumph is the same reason I'm thinking about selling my Beemer. My BMW dealer is 160 miles away, and the nearest Triumph dealer is about the same. I've had several warantee "issues" with the Beemer, and taking time for the commute isn't very convenient. I do have Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha dealers about 10 miles away. If the Beemer goes, I'm trying to find a comfortable replacement. I'm thinking that something more basic might not be a bad idea either, but after swtching from Harleys to the BMW, I've found that I prefer a full fairing. Thanks for your input.

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Old 03-22-2004, 11:19 AM   #14
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Suzuki SV650 or 1000 sounds perfect for what you're looking for.
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Old 03-22-2004, 03:11 PM   #15
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Pigface1,

If the SV 650 & 1000 had full fairings, and comfortable ergonomics, I would consider them. Here's my list of prospects as of today:

Honda: ST1300 (Big, fat, and heavy, but probably very comfortable)
VTR1000 (Not exactly a full fairing, and the range is short)

Kawasaki: ZZR600 (I don't know much about it, but once sat one one)
ZZR1200 (Same as above, only bigger)

Suzuki: Hayabusa (I rode one - needs Helibars & a double bubble)

Yamaha: YZF1300 (hard to get, and I've never ridden one)

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